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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : أرجو المساعدة في رد شبهات عن القران الكريم من أحد الكفرة



عيسى
08-25-2005, 08:02 PM
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
اخواني لقد كنت اتناقش في احد المنديات الاجنبية حول القران ولقد ذكروا عدة ايات من القران وهم قد فهموها فهما خاطئا
ولم استطيع الرد عليهم
سانسخ لكم ما قالوا عن القران الكريم وارجو مساعدتي جزاكم الله خير وان يكون الرد باللغة الانجليزية اذا امكن
اللون الاخضر هو ترجمة الاية باللغة الانجليزية واللون الاسود هو تعليقهم على الاية
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I found some interesting quotes from the Quran on the Net.....



QUOTE(Quran)
سورة البقرة ..ايه 24
2:24 And if ye do it not - and ye can never do it - then guard yourselves against the Fire prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is of men and stones
So we who do not believe in your religion will be burned?



QUOTE(Quran)سورة البقرة ..ايه 171

2:171 The likeness of those who disbelieve (in relation to the messenger) is as the likeness of one who calleth unto that which heareth naught except a shout and cry. Deaf, dumb, blind, therefore they have no sense. We're deaf, dumb, blind and we're sensless....wow!


QUOTE(Quran)سورة البقرة ..ايه 191

2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

You're going to slay us!? .....that's a bit harsh isn't it....


QUOTE(Quran)سورة البقرة ..ايه 222

2:222 They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness.




I think someone should teach you guys some sex-education.....




QUOTEسورة النمل ..ايه 61

27:61 Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein, and hath set a barrier between the two seas ? Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!






You do know that the earth is actually moving, right?


QUOTE
سورة سبا ..ايه 34


34:38 And as for those who strive against Our revelations, challenging, they will be brought to the doom.



i think we better leave this thread now

الجندى
08-25-2005, 08:26 PM
أخى عيسى السلام عليكم ورحمة الله

هذا الكلام سخرية وليس شبهات ، ولا يستحق الامر تعب البحث والرد .
ثم انك لم تستطع الرد على هذه الشبهات وهى ليست بشبهات ، فكيف سيكون الحال ان دخلت معهم فى مناظرة وجدال ؟ ولتعذرنى أخى فى قولى هذا ولكنها نصيحة من أخ يهمه الا تضيع وقتك فى تفاهات :emrose:

موراني
08-25-2005, 09:34 PM
يا عيسى ,
لا تحاور هؤلاء الناس بمرة !
جاهلهم , اذ هم جهلاء .

عبد الواحد
08-25-2005, 10:08 PM
I found some interesting quotes from the Quran on the Net.....

QUOTE(Quran)
سورة البقرة ..ايه 24
2:24 And if ye do it not - and ye can never do it - then guard yourselves against the Fire prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is of men and stones

So we who do not believe in your religion will be burned?
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Answer:

yes

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QUOTE(Quran)سورة البقرة ..ايه 171

2:171 The likeness of those who disbelieve (in relation to the messenger) is as the likeness of one who calleth unto that which heareth naught except a shout and cry. Deaf, dumb, blind, therefore they have no sense.

We're deaf, dumb, blind and we're sensless....wow!

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Answer:

Yes because you are one of 3:
1- An atheist dumb in math, who thinks that this complex system of life came by coincidence.
2- A Christian who has no sense, blind.. who believes that GOD killed him self 3 days to pay to him the price of adam's sin.
3- Or maybe u r a jew who believe that god clas sify ppl by race not by faith, & u believe in a book who calls GOD with every kind of animals name…



QUOTE(Quran)سورة البقرة ..ايه 191

2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

You're going to slay us!? .....that's a bit harsh isn't it....

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Answer:

The verse is talking about war, u want us to give you a cup of tea in war? Whenever the insurgents in Iraq find u they will be glad to slay you. That’s if u follow the dumb bush. & Whenever u stop your war against us we will apply the VERY next verse:
2:191But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

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QUOTE(Quran)سورة البقرة ..ايه 222

2:222 They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness.


I think someone should teach you guys some sex-education.....

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Answer:

Du u mean u can have sex with your wife even in her period? How dirty u r? I think u need to clean up your self first. The hadits tell us you have the right to do what ever u want with your wife except the intercourse if she is in her period,
but why don’t we have a look in your so called holy book.
Leviticus 15:
19And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.
20And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean.
21And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
22And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
23And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even.

Wooow, ir we talking about a wife or a nuclear dirt?
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QUOTEسورة النمل ..ايه 61

27:61 Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein, and hath set a barrier between the two seas ? Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!

You do know that the earth is actually moving, right?
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Answer:

This is a proof that u r exactly like the verses 2:171 described you. Dont u know that you live above a sea of magma? Didn’t they teach you in school that the earth can easily move if there are no mountains?
The verse is not talking about the movement of the earth in he space!
Yusuf Ali translation: Who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst
Shakir translation: Who made the earth a restingplace, and made in it rivers
What about this other verse? (Qur'an, 21:31)
We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them…
Read about it and teach your self: http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_25.html
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ATmaCA
08-25-2005, 11:59 PM
اخى عيسى ,,
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله
اخى الكريم هل ترى فى هذا الكلام مايصل به الى مستوى " شبهة " او حتى افتراء ,, والله اخى اعتقد ان هؤلاء من الفئة الــ !!!! amentia ,,

ATmaCA
08-26-2005, 12:28 AM
مجرد سخرية من القرآن الكريم وارجو حذفها ,, فى التعليق الاول يسخر من القرآن الكريم ويسال بكل غباء وكانه لايفهم الكلام ويقول ( ان من لم يؤمن بالقرآن سوف يحرق اذن ) ,, يعنى مجرد تعليق على الآية الكريمة بل انها سخرية وسخف ..
وفى الاية الثانية يعلق ايضاً على اية من سورة البقرة وبكل حمق يسال ( نحن اذن صم بكم عمى ولانعقل واو ) ,, يعنى مجرد خبال اقترح على الادارة الكريمة حذف الموضوع لان به سخرية من القرآن وبه سخرية من الله والرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم ,, ولايرقى للنقاش او الرد اصلاً .

عيسى
08-26-2005, 12:29 AM
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

شكرا لكم
اخي
jerusalem2004
لقد كتبت ما قلته...ولم يستطع الرد عليه...جزاك الله كل خير..
اخي ATmaCA
اذا كنت اخطأت فذكرني..جزاك الله خير على ذلك
السلام عليكم