Can someone help?

**dr-waleed** · 12-09-2010, 06:43 PM

this is a translation for what cyperkat said
سألت الاخت على طلبكم ان كان تشارلي تغير قبل ان يموت
فقالت مانصه:

لم يكن في نيتي المشاركة في مناقشات المنتدى ولكن على كل حال سأجيب على تساؤلاتكم . كنت مع شارلي حتى النهاية ، واحب ان ابلغكم انه لم يغير رأيه. فهو مؤمن بعدم وجود اله وكان يعتقد انه لا يمكن أبدا أن نقبل بأن الله موجود. ومع ذلك ارى بان الدين هو اختيار شخصي ، ونحن نتخذ قراراتنا التي ستؤثر على طريقة حياتنا وليس من حق اي شخص ان يحكم على الاخر على الاقل هذا ما اعتقده انا . أنا أحترم معتقدات الآخرين ولكن أنا لا أسمح لأحد أن يجبرني على الاعتقاد بدين او فكرة ..الاعتقاد الحقيقي يأتي من القلب...وببساطة لم نجده في قلوبنا - ربما تقصد هي وشارلي - وبالنسبة لمن يؤمن منكم بالله ، لا أعتقد أنه أمر سيء أن تشارلي لم يغير رأيه حتى النهاية. لم يسبق لكم ان عرفتموه، فانتم لستم اقربائه ولا اصدقائه - على فكرة سايبركات هذه عشيقته - ، لذلك ليس هناك حاجة للشعور بالأسف على روحه فهذا هو اختياره ويجب عليكم تقبل ذلك ، واحترامه حتى ولو كان يخالف اختياراتكم .

**أحمد فتحي الموحد** · 12-09-2010, 08:35 PM

well.... is his choice after all....

like you say in western culture: R.I.P Charlie.....

i have shared with him some ideas and visions...

i was used to end my message with "Ahmed" when i talked to him...

**نور الدين الدمشقي** · 12-09-2010, 09:23 PM

CyberKat
We Ask God to grant you patience and guidance. This is how short life is;
I hope we can all ponder upon that!.

Was Charlie interested in religion after he knew about the Cancer? or was he interested to discuss it afterwards?

**CyberKat** · 12-10-2010, 02:13 AM

As far as I know, his interest in religion had nothing to do with the fact that he had cancer. I think his interest in diferent religions was more out of curiosity because he couldn´t understand what makes people belive such things he always thought to be nonsense. So he was interested long before he knew that he is sick.

He was definitely NOT one of those people who seak religion and want to accept the existence of God when they realize that their life is comming to an end. I personaly belive that whoever is not a true beliver and accepts religion only because he/she is afraid of what might come after death, is just a hypocrite. If you are a true beliver than you should be a beliver all your life, not just when your life is comming to an end, and if you don´t belive in God, pretending and wanting to belive in God the moment you realize that you (all of us) are going to die... that is not true religion... that is just "oh I better save my a** before it´s to late"...

Charlie was not afraid to die. Even though he didn´t belive in God and he belived that there is nothing after death... no after life... nothing. He still wasn´t afraid and he would never accept any religion just because of the fact that he was sick and dying

I don´t think that I am gonna reply to any more questions. Like I said before it was never my intention to get into discussions here, I just wanted to read what Charlie wrote in this thread because I miss him so much and somehow, now that he is gone, I just want to treasure every little memory I had of him.

take care you all..

**سليلة الغرباء** · 12-10-2010, 10:28 AM

There is no strength except in Allah
Think Think Think and my friend

Friend's fate in the hands of the Dead Lord of the Worlds

and he did not notice did not like to believe before his death to save himself

If a safe and conviction of the truth was better for him

Death is not in vain, as life is not in vain

Did not create in vain

We were made for a very Creator God is

God, we are afraid of you, O my colleague, sincerely want you to survive

Thank you for your response and God to guide you

Think and think and think and make sure that we want you well and happiness

لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله
فكري فكري وفكري يا صديقتي

صديقك الميت مصيره بين يدي رب العالمين

وهو لم ينتبه ولم يحب أن يؤمن قبل موته لينقذ نفسه

لو آمن حقيقة وبقناعة لكان أفضل له

الموت ليس عبثا كما الحياة ليست عبثا

لم نخلق عبثا

نحن خلقنا لغاية وخالقنا هو الله

والله إننا لنخشى عليك يا زميلتي بصدق نريد لك النجاة

نشكرك على ردك والله يهديك

فكري وفكري وفكري وتأكدي أننا نريد لك الخير والسعادة

**zaetona** · 12-10-2010, 10:59 AM