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تشارلى توفى,دخلت على موقعه,وفعلا هو مات منذ 22 اكتوبر,

الله اعلم بحاله,

لاداعى لتوجيه شىء اليه,فقد افضى لما قدم,

,هذا هو تشارلى قبل وفاته بشهور.


ربنا يرزقنا اليقين والثبات ,آمين

a CHALLENGE

Charlie, I made this subject for you. Please give me an explanation for what in this link. Please



Remember my friend, the truth is the truth, not what you want it to be the truth

لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله.

لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله

اللهم ارزقنا حسن الخاتمة


كم نحزن عندما يموت انسان على هذه المعتقدات .. ولكن الله عز وجل قدر له الموت على الكفر .. والله اعلم بحاله الان

هل مات تشارلي ؟

انا لله وانا اليـــــــه راجعون ...
صادفت عدة أشخاص بنفس تفكير شارلي ... والمفارقه انهم ماتوا على ماهم عليـــــه ...!!
اللهم احسن خاتمتنا ولاتقبضنا الا وأنت راض عنا , نعوذ بك من ميتة السوء وخاتمة السوء .....
He said here before "Second Life after death a good idea but it is far from the truth" .. Now he has become in this life that he thought it was far .... And certainly saw the truth .... We sincerely hope that he heard telling the truth that everyone who tried to guide him and show him the way to ALLAH as ALLAH wants human beings .... But he was not see than what he settled in his mind from the wrong idea ... He died at the end of this already, but ALLAH gave him an opportunity here ...
SOUPHANALLAH.....!!

انا لله وانا اليه راجعون,حياه الانسان قصيره,ومع ذلك لايفكر فى سبب وجود فيها ,وتلهيه الامانى,ولكن الموت يأتى بغته

what question you asked and I didn't reply!! You are just trying to escape by saying that you won't answer my question BECAUSE I didn't sign my reply in which I quoted your saying (( HI HOSSAM)) What a bad person I'm!!!! Good luck and don't again try to defend something you don't understand as uniformitarianism or evolution

Oh, yes I am a very bad person doing my best to answer others questions, while my questions are too often being ignored. At least I know the custom to sign myself when I write something. There is no need for me to reply a not signed message.0

Charlie

here you don't know the term and doubt its truth


here you talk alot about something you just ignore! who spoke about the BB?! you just don't know uniformitarianism and dare to reply without the least knowledge and i really don't know why

anyway
you say you believe in experience
uniformitarianism can't be proven by experience as Gould said... do you still beleive in it and in the ideas based upon it??

hi charlie
no . it's because ramadan . they don't have a lote of time

Hi guys

Did you give up, or is something wrong with the site? I am waiting for some comments... 0

Charlie

Hi again Stranger

Nice you accept to talk of god from other angles of view. I like your explanation of why god made the universe so great (big) and made many planets without life. To stabilize the path of earth and of our galaxy. But this means he acted within the limits of natural laws. You say he is above the natural laws. Than he could have make the earth stable without the other planets. And actually the other planets are more destabilizing than stabilizing. The most stable path we would have with earth and sun alone. But regardless to that, that can not be the purpose because he did not need them for that, if he is above the natural laws. If the purpose was to show the greatness, than why did he not make anything that would show this is not natural. Like the stars placed to look like something. Than everyone would be amazed. 0
So, yes... the question why we need water is very good. A god above the natural laws could make us to not need water... or not need food... 0
Another question is if the world is perfect than why can we not live without killing other animals? I am not talking about animals we kill to eat. I talk about insects we step on when we walk? What is the purpose with that? It does not make much sence to me. 0
A final question just: What does Quran say of extraterrestrial life? 0

Best regards from Charlie

Hi again Stranger

I hope Ibn Alsunnah will let us talk about this, cause here we are touching the evolution and that has, due to him not the topic of this forum. We are in trouble... hehehe :-D

Anyway, I asked you before: Can you even imagine ANYTHING existing without any rules? Can you even describe something like that? It is impossible. There are physical and chemical laws that steer the biological rules. It is not like some new laws appeared after the earth cooled down after a billion of years or so and got a hard core and life started. It was a natural process. Science is explaining it more and more in details. I did not hear of any fundamental religious person (regardless of what religion we talk about) getting a Noble prize by studying holy books to make a discovery. Isn't that weird? Or isn't it a sign of how "serious" these book are from a scientific point of view? 0
The sand in the dessert is not only shaped by the wind, but also by physical laws in the peaces themselves. For example they can not fall one into other. We can understand why they are placed like that. Not for every piece independently, but in general. Your god has obviously control of every peace. So why is he not writing Shakespeare in sand after a dessert storm? Why are the stars not placed to form some shapes that we will recognize as human face, or some letters (in Arab, or whatever)? Any shape we can recognize. I think you agree that the shapes we see require quite a lot of fantasy to make us remind of what the star constellations are named by. Such clear shape would not even be a miracle for someone who is controlling every peace of sand, and birth of every virus and microbe. But, it will never happen.0
Since I did not get the answer from anyone else, can you answer me: Is Quran talking about creation OR evolution? Both can not be the truth, I think you agree. Or is it
perhaps not mentioning this at all? 0

About complexity and the tendency of matter to organize itself, or not. Nothing could have been much more unorganized than the time after BB. A very simple force made the atoms start to "organize" - gravitation. Of course it was not the only force (we have the electromagnetic force, the strong and the weak nuclear force, but no need to involve them here). Natural laws are same anywhere. They are universal and eternal. Just like the matter probably is. Weather you believe in it or not, it was impossible to the material to not follow any rules, after bb. Can you describe how such world would look like? I can not.
If you think something violates the natural laws, than you probably don't understand them well. Nothing can violate the natural laws. No god, or anything else. Once life started, it did continue to evaluate. Not because someone told it to do so, but because the fight for survival takes over. Species have to adapt, or to go under. How this goes on I talked about before, but I will gladly talk about it again, if I am allowed.#The diversity of the species is a result of long time evolution and many changes in climate, movement of continents and the big diversity in the environment on earth. It is not a miracle. But since I did not get the answer about Qurans position about evolution, maybe there is no need to talk about that. Maybe it will agree with me. I hope you will give me an answer about that. 0
The viruses and all life, just as everything else is made of same atoms, or if you want, neutrons, protons and electrons. So it is obvious they have the same origins. The viruses you talk about do have a simple DNA, but it is not made of something else, than the sand in the dessert is made of, if we go to the level to look into the atoms. Think about that. We see life from very simple viruses, at the edge of life,,,, there are crystals that act almost like alive, but still they are not and we have very complex forms of life, like ourselves for
example. It smells evolution, not creation.... What do you think? 0

Best regards from Charlie