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  • Maria al-Qibtiyya
    عضو
    • Oct 2012
    • 67
    #31
    المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة أميمة مشاهدة المشاركة
    [, Iwould like to tell you as well that Muslem have to accept all the rules of Islam, as we strongly belive that Almighty ALAH is Fair in His judgment
    "إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَظْلِمُ مِثْقَالَ ذَرَّةٍ وَإِن تَكُ حَسَنَةً يُضَاعِفْهَا

    وَيُؤْتِ مِن لَّدُنْهُ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا"

    "ALLAH CAUSES NOT ANY INJUSTICE, EVEN TO THE SLIGHTEST EXTENT.

    IF A GOOD DEED IS DONE, ALLAH WILL DOUBLE ITS MERIT,

    AND HE WILL GIVE OF HIS OWN A GREAT REWARD."

    the Holy Quran in Surah 4: Ayah 40 ,.
    Muslem does not deal with ALLAH as he deals with humans ,we do not have the wrigt to discuse our Cretor
    Surah 112: Ayahs 1-4:



    قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ

    "SAY HE IS ALLAH THE ONE, ALLAH NEEDED BY ALL

    HE BEGETS NOT NOR IS HE BEGOTTEN

    AND THERE IS NONE THE LIKE OF HIM."[/LEFT]
    Indeed true. Jazakallah for giving me all this. I'm not denying all these facts . What I'm saying sis is just that different scholars's opinions are different on this issue some say it's an obligation some say it's not , to kill an apostate. That is why I'm confused . & I know if an apostate is put to death it would be okay as Allah has allowed it . But I don't know if an apostate is left alive it would be a sin or not

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      • Maria al-Qibtiyya
        عضو
        • Oct 2012
        • 67
        #32
        المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة واسطة العقد مشاهدة المشاركة
        whats your first language ?
        Irrelevant.

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          • واسطة العقد
            طالبة
            • Apr 2011
            • 2598
            #33
            didnt say it is
            أستغفر الله العظيم و أتوب إليه

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              • ليندا الموحدة بالله
                عضو
                • Oct 2012
                • 458
                #34
                Yes if the apostate is still not convinced he is put to death in an Islamic state ruled under Shariah . There is consensus on this view.
                There is no compulsion if you are a non-muslim. Once you have become a Muslim you are legally accountable for your actions such as stealing, drinking wine, committing adultery etc.Allah knows best.
                الحمدلله الذي هدانا إليه

                ۞ أَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رَسُولُ الله ۞

                "" ومثل الذين كفروا كمثل الذي ينعق بما لا يسمع إلا دعاء ونداء صم بكم عمي فهم لا يعقلون"""

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                  • أميمة
                    عضو
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 89
                    #35
                    no one wants to be killed

                    All scolars of Islam judge by killing a person who committed kofr but after enough discussion with him, according to the hadith of Bukhari whish is autheticated 100%
                    As told by brother Abu Alqasem
                    This is not the case for someone who is silent and does not make (fetna) in society , if some one knowes that he will be killed he will not make any problems and will not try to affect others (by net or news papers or T.V. or any way). in society

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                      • Maria al-Qibtiyya
                        عضو
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 67
                        #36
                        المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة أميمة مشاهدة المشاركة
                        This is not the case for someone who is silent and does not make (fetna) in society , if some one knowes that he will be killed he will not make any problems and will not try to affect others (by net or news papers or T.V. or any way). in society
                        So do you mean to say an apostate would not be put to death if he don't create fitnah, right??
                        And what is the punishment for a female apostate. some Muslims say , '' The female apostate will be given life imprisonment.'' is it true?

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                          • Maria al-Qibtiyya
                            عضو
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 67
                            #37
                            المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة hope
                            .



                            This question was answered in the video
                            I'll watch in shaa Allah - jazakallah

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                              • أبو القـاسم
                                محاور
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3815
                                #38
                                NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! the Video is Not right
                                Last edited by أبو القـاسم; 12-24-2012, 12:13 AM.
                                مقالاتي
                                http://www.eltwhed.com/vb/forumdispl...E3%DE%CF%D3%ED
                                أقسام الوساوس
                                http://www.eltwhed.com/vb/showthread...5-%E3%E4%E5%C7
                                مدونة الأستاذ المهندس الأخ (أبو حب الله )
                                http://abohobelah.blogspot.com/

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                                  • أبو القـاسم
                                    محاور
                                    • Nov 2010
                                    • 3815
                                    #39
                                    being non muslim is itself fetna..not as u said ..one of meanings of fetna is that it disturbs the belief of ignorant peopl in society and causes alot of good peopl to be confused..etc
                                    Last edited by أبو القـاسم; 12-23-2012, 11:49 AM.
                                    مقالاتي
                                    http://www.eltwhed.com/vb/forumdispl...E3%DE%CF%D3%ED
                                    أقسام الوساوس
                                    http://www.eltwhed.com/vb/showthread...5-%E3%E4%E5%C7
                                    مدونة الأستاذ المهندس الأخ (أبو حب الله )
                                    http://abohobelah.blogspot.com/

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                                      • أبو القـاسم
                                        محاور
                                        • Nov 2010
                                        • 3815
                                        #40
                                        http://elazhar.com/okdown1/islam-guide.pdf


                                        plz sis forget about this issue now..and kindly read this fantastic book
                                        Last edited by أبو القـاسم; 12-23-2012, 11:36 AM.
                                        مقالاتي
                                        http://www.eltwhed.com/vb/forumdispl...E3%DE%CF%D3%ED
                                        أقسام الوساوس
                                        http://www.eltwhed.com/vb/showthread...5-%E3%E4%E5%C7
                                        مدونة الأستاذ المهندس الأخ (أبو حب الله )
                                        http://abohobelah.blogspot.com/

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                                          • lightline
                                            عضو
                                            • Jan 2011
                                            • 1200
                                            #41
                                            hope did post that video wasn't me

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                                              • أميمة
                                                عضو
                                                • Nov 2012
                                                • 89
                                                #42
                                                In all "Abu Dawod " ref. there is no such this , and this means that this scholar is layer ,Is he Adnan Ibraheem?????

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                                                  • Maria al-Qibtiyya
                                                    عضو
                                                    • Oct 2012
                                                    • 67
                                                    #43
                                                    Ok . i close this issue. killing an apostate is okay & don't worry i believe in Allah & acknowledge all His rules after all I'm a muslimah. And I was just asking a ''question'' it didnt affect on my belief. The scholar maye a liar. May Allah keep save all of us from such fake scholars.
                                                    I'd like to quote a Hadith: Abu Shamah had narrated, via the Sanad of Abi Ziyad bin Hudayr, saying:


                                                    "Omar said to me: Do you know what destroys Islam? I said, No! He said: A mistake made by a scholar, the argument of a hypocrite in writing and the ruling of leaders who wish for people to stray".
                                                    Wassalam.

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                                                      • مسلم أسود
                                                        عضو نشيط
                                                        • Apr 2012
                                                        • 2906
                                                        #44
                                                        Thank god that you're convinced . But I have a question :

                                                        Are you the same girl I told to come here on YouTube ?

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                                                          • واسطة العقد
                                                            طالبة
                                                            • Apr 2011
                                                            • 2598
                                                            #45
                                                            اخي مسلم اسود: كلمة جودنيس ﻻ يجوز لنا كمسلمين قولها
                                                            أستغفر الله العظيم و أتوب إليه

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